Marc had prejudged comedian Joe DeRosa. He thought he was a Philly tough guy who wouldn’t want to have anything to do with a guy like Marc. Now that they’re friends and realize how similar they are, they can commiserate about the insecurities and doubt that plagued both of their careers. Also, John Hodgman and Jesse Thorn stop by to compare facial hair. This episode is sponsored by Hint Water, Squarespace, and Blue Apron.