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    Hi, Lori!

    I totally hear you. I wasn’t intending to say that women’s liberation was only based on sexual liberation. Those were two separate points in reference to two separate things but I did a bad job of specifying that. I totally see how it comes off the way it was taken. So my apologies for being unclear.

    Anyway, rape is not celebrated within the culture. That specific point is as absurd as it sounds. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. It’s strongly condemned. The “social justice” aspect you are talking about comes from the fact that ICP will often play vigilante in their music. They write a lot of story songs and when they are committing murder, it’s typically racists, bigots, spousal abusers, child abusers, those who exploit others for personal gain and pedophiles (who are considered the lowest of the low in the juggalo community) that are being killed. So this is where that idea came from, however the idea that “raping for social justice” is a part of that is inaccurate.

    My original argument that Tila Tequila’s treatment wasn’t inherently misogynistic comes from knowing that other undesired male acts have received the same welcome. In fact when Tila performed that night she was performing as a part of a block of sets from female MCs, none of which had anything thrown at them or were mistreated in any way. I’m not going to pretend that I know what was going on in everyone’s head that night, nor do I want to. But even if that were the case it’s still unfair to paint a group filled with mostly very nice, caring and considerate people as woman-hating monsters. I have been part of this group in one way or another for 20 years and if that were my experience, I would not have been.

    Now, this isn’t to say there aren’t shit heads in the mix. There certainly are. I just hate to see those people making it so an entire, already misunderstood, culture is demonized. And shame on them for everything they have done.

    Anyway I hope I was more clear this time.

    While we are on the topic, I thought you might be interested in this story. It discusses a bit of what we are talking about from a first hand perspective. This woman Rachel Paul is doing great things in the community… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_hjkhjM5f0

    Thanks for hearing me out.
    Be well!

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